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Oscillating Wind Speeds on a Darrieus VAWT
Quote from JakeVAWT on 3. July 2026, 04:43I am using QBlade to study the effect of oscillating wind patterns on a Darrieus VAWT. In my study I have simulated the Sandia 34m Darrieus VAWT (available to download from QBlade) at four different wind speeds (3 m/s, 5 m/s, 7 m/s, and 9 m/s) with four different periods of oscillations of 1 m/s (no oscillation for control, 5 second period, 10 second period, and 60 second period) using the hub height file. To determine the effect of these oscillations, I have taken the average Cp in the last 200 seconds of each 1000 second simulation.After the 16 simulations, I found that the average Cp for the simulations with oscillations in wind speeds that were tested at 3m/s had a negative average Cp. To solve this, I carried out a calculation to change the Power Coefficient to be based on the average wind speed instead of the variable wind speed:Power Coefficient * (X_g Inflow Vel. at Hub / Mean wind speed)^3However, even after carrying out this calculation, the simulation with a 5 second oscillation with an average wind speed of 3 m/s had a negative average coefficient of power. I would think that a negative average cofficient of power would mean that the turbine would be slowing down over time, but I do not notice that. Is there something else that can cause the average coefficient of power to be negative even when the turbine was set to free spinning and the average TSR is stable?I have attached a graph of the coefficient of power before and after the calcuation. As you can see, from both graphs at the last 200 seconds the average coefficient of power is negative. I have also attached below a screenshot of the simulation controls for the troublesome simulation.
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Quote from David on 3. July 2026, 13:12Hello Jake,
I think in your case the issue is that you are simulating a “free spinning” VAWT.
If there is no counteracting torque from a generator, or if the turbine is not held at a fixed rotational rate, it will accelerate until it reaches its no-load runaway condition. At this point the mean aerodynamic torque generated by the rotor is zero and the rotor can no longer accelerate, see the attached image.
This is not a meaningful power-producing operating point. The rotor is close to the TSR where the aerodynamic torque changes sign, so the averaged Cp can become very small or even negative, especially in unsteady inflow.
For a meaningful simulation you need to limit the rotor’s rotational rate. If you do not have a controller or generator torque model, you should use the “fixed rpm” setting for this purpose.
For the variable wind speed case I would also suggest manually calculating Cp, based on the rotor power production and a suitable reference velocity.
Best regards,
David
Hello Jake,
I think in your case the issue is that you are simulating a “free spinning” VAWT.
If there is no counteracting torque from a generator, or if the turbine is not held at a fixed rotational rate, it will accelerate until it reaches its no-load runaway condition. At this point the mean aerodynamic torque generated by the rotor is zero and the rotor can no longer accelerate, see the attached image.
This is not a meaningful power-producing operating point. The rotor is close to the TSR where the aerodynamic torque changes sign, so the averaged Cp can become very small or even negative, especially in unsteady inflow.
For a meaningful simulation you need to limit the rotor’s rotational rate. If you do not have a controller or generator torque model, you should use the “fixed rpm” setting for this purpose.
For the variable wind speed case I would also suggest manually calculating Cp, based on the rotor power production and a suitable reference velocity.
Best regards,
David
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